egg bar shoes

[Lonestarchickypoo]

From what I have seen and know from farriers I have used , they mostly put these on horses with lamintis.. as I have posted before I have been battling my halter mares very very crumbly hooves is the only way I can explain it.. they are DUCK BILLED lol... I have her done regularly.. but her hooves are still damaged from whatever they did to her prior to me buying her.. so I been beating around the bush or not to see if we can get some shoes on her this spring bc for one I really think it will help with getting her angles back where they should be. maybe it will just wondering if anyone has had to do something like this before... they are off.. and WAY OFF.. you can tell just by lookin at her.. Im in no way shape or form going to show her ever... im just wanting to get her a normal hoof.. they are brittle and hollow if that makes since so I dont even know if they could get a shoe on unless they glue it.. just wondering if anyone has delt with this.. tryin to get their hooves back to normal I guess the best thing to do is get some pics so you can see what im talking about...

any info would be great..

[mec2000]

hmm my farrier made a custom shoe for my navicular horse He welded a bar across the bar of the shoe and riveted leather pads to the shoe than glued the shoe to his foot. The bar takes the pressure off his navicular bone. He has been 100% sound and never loses shoes. I dont know if this helps or not just thought it was idea if you want my farriers number let me know

[SunshineAcres]

Eggbar shoes are used for navicular horses as well. If your horse's hooves are crumbly and hollow, it will be difficult if not impossible to hold a shoe. My suggestion is to get her on a hoof supplement. Horseshoer's Secret is available at TSC, has the suggested amount of Biotin and is very reasonably priced. The container is huge so will last a long time for one horse. I will also suggest using the topical Horseshoer's Secret Hoof conditioner at least every other day. We use it on one of our mares and it has done wonders for her hooves. I hope you get it figured out but from the sounds of it, shoes will not benefit your mare. You need to get her hoof healthy.

[Lonestarchickypoo]

I have used that farriers secret on her wasnt really impressed with it.. went through three tubs of it with her... but I didnt see the topical stuff... I was thinking along the lines of getting shoes glued on her.. but then im sure they would come off I would probably have to bring her in and just keep her stalled.. they are a lot better then what they were.. but still need some work... thanks for the suggestions keep um coming

[nlk]

research on the Epona shoe. It's a rubber shoe that get glued on and filled with silicone. might be an option.

[SunshineAcres]

The condition you describe her hooves to be in says that they need moisture and healing. What is her diet?

[Lonestarchickypoo]

shes out to pasture.. but they get grained twice a day and I give them all suppliments in the grain... the hay we have is nice also.. I dont give them crappy rounds ... its a timothy alfalfa mix.. the vitamins I give her is that new stuff or not new I just noticed it about two months ago... thats when I started it so I figured it will take a bit to get in her system... but its the stuff from Purina in the white pails..

[horsecrazylady]

An old horseman from this area uses a regular shoe for navicular but he puts them on backwards to protect the back of the foot. He pulled a friends horse though it and got him back to normal.

[jmk]

Sounds like a very good hoof supplement is in order to get the hoof back in shape.There are many on the market...look for the highest concentrate of biotin and dl-methionine.I have had great luck with Focus HF on my bad footed horses.A farrier once told me that a good hoof comes from the inside.A good hoof dressing does help too.But sometimes it is just the genetics of the horse.And even tho MSM is used a lot for joint problems and arthrits I found on the horses I used it on it did help their feet.Getting a good hoof on a bad footed horse is a long process.
Good Luck
Appy Trails
Jan
Alos have found that a bad farrier can really screw up a horse's feet...rasping too much of the outside covering off.Shiny stuff called periople..Which is there to protect the hoof.Some farriers will rasp up the outside within an inch or 2 from the coronet band..NOT good!!!!

[nlk]

Remember when using supplements for hooves that you are not going to notice the effect for a long time. It takes the hoof about a year to grow out and you can't do a whole lot until the new hoof grows out. About the only thing you can do to effect the outside of your horses hooves now is moisturize ( I used rain maker) and that is for the out side. It will prevent surface cracks, peeling or surface chips.

To really fix the overall condition you need to give the supplement more then two months. What will probably happen is the two months he was on what ever supplement a year from then you will notice stronger hooves, until that grows out and then they will go back to brittle.

Our horses hooves show a time line of care, nutrition, and illness (such as fever rings). They do not go away until it grows out.

So if you are looking for a long term fix I would start a topical conditioner such as rain maker (I have had the best results from Rain maker) Get the shoes on if your horse needs them from being tender, a good farrier will suggest what shoes to put on and how and they should stay put (my old farrier had shoes on my old horse with a huge chunk missing) then start a good supplement and stick with it. Don't expect results with in two months because you're not going to get it. After a few months you will probably notice a "ring" from the cornet down that is the new healthy growth.

I have had the best results with the Majesty cookies "Bio +" They have the necessary ingredients, (actually contain more Biotin then other hoof supplements) and is cheaper then others. I have also used HB-15 with success. When I am using a hoof supplement I use a straight Biotin product (will have magnesium, copper etc still)
I have found the other supplements are more expensive and work just as well as the HB-15 and my favorite is by far the Majesty cookies

Just remember to come up with a plan a stick with it. Hooves don't happen over night!

[strayacres]

Talk to your vet about a good supplement and the epona shoe is a good idea also. You sure took on a project.

[Lonestarchickypoo]

Yeah that she is.. I knew before I bought her something was up with the feet bc of how many mares didnt have them done.. the ones that lunged at you when you walked up to the stalls lol.. and the ones like mine wh ich were fine with people had no feet.. and you could tell freshly trimmed... she was sore at the sale.. but I knew with taking some weight off of her and giving her time.. I that vitamin I have has some msm in it.. thats one of the reason I got it.. she doesnt have navicular its just brittle hollow hoofs... shes not lame which is a plus it took me a good 13 months to get her atleast sound... bc her hoofs were so short she had nothing.. you know them halter horses with no feet.. well thats what she looked like.. Thanks for the info.. im gonna try some of that focus... and the rainmaker stuff works great for moisterizing.. The farm where I grew up at the manager used to have us kids go out and massage the horses cornet bands with it lol... fifteen minutes each cornet band ..

[BarebackJumper]

Be careful with egg bars. The people I got my horse from thought he had navicular without checking and egg bars have a tendancy to give a low heel long toe. My poor boy now has ring bone from it.